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World Cup 2026: Messi makes history

23 June 2026

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Lionel Messi is now the World Cup's all-time leading scorer, after getting two goals for Argentina against Austria - two days before his 39th birthday. Messi's tally now stands at 18 goals, but what is the secret behind his longevity - and can he now be called the greatest footballer ever?

The BBC’s Mani Djazmi is joined by South American football expert Tim Vickery, who analyses how Messi has adapted his game over the past two decades to remain among the world's greatest players. Tim also considers how Argentina's team functions without Messi - and explains why Argentinians see him in a different light to the country's other football icon, Diego Maradona.

We also hear from former Argentina forward Hernan Crespo, who says he knew Messi was special from the moment he first saw him. He also discusses his ongoing importance to the side and assesses their chances of winning World Cup 2026.

All this summer, More than the Score brings you more than the men’s football World Cup - the new teams, standout stars and fandoms shaping the tournament in ways the stats don’t show. Search for More than the Score, wherever you get your BBC podcasts.