Chancellor says benefits bill must come down as Tory leader targets welfare for savingspublished at 10:41 GMT
Image source, PA MediaChancellor John Healey has committed to bringing the benefits bill down before the next general election, calling it a moral and economic "duty".
In a recorded interview with Laura Kuenssberg, the chancellor was also pressed on defence spending after sensationally resigning as defence secretary under Keir Starmer earlier this year over the government's commitments.
He pointed to next year's spending review as the time when he'll set out how 3% of the UK's economy will go towards defence.
Panellist and former chief of the defence staff Tony Radakin said the government was in danger "of being in a slight pickle" on defence spending, adding that Labour has had to make cuts to "balance the budget", which has meant retiring jets, scrapping ships.
Conservative leader Kemi Badenoch said the bulk of government savings needed to come from welfare spending.
She rejected suggestions her party is one for wealthy people, pointing instead to her policies on halving employers' National Insurance contributions for young people and cutting business rates for independent businesses.
Badenoch also accused Burnham's government of not focusing enough on the problems at hand today, drawing attention instead to debates like Britain potentially rejoining the EU.
On transatlantic slavery, both Healey and Badenoch rejected calls for reparations but the chancellor agreed with the prime minister's position of considering a formal apology for the UK's role in the transatlantic slave trade.
We're ending our live coverage of today's programme. You can read more from Laura Kuenssberg's interview with the chancellor here.










