5. An American Boy and an English Girl

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Amongst all the references to alcohol in hip-hop, one drink reference stands out… Ribena. How did it end up getting namechecked on one of hip-hop’s biggest US/UK collabs? In the 90s and 00s, the UK hip-hop scene was still quite small. Estelle cut her teeth freestyling in record shops before moving to the US. She ended up collaborating with Kanye West on American Boy – a tune that would become iconic. The road wasn’t easy, from leaving the UK in the first place to battling people’s perceptions of how a Black British girl should break the States… Ashley reflects on his own experiences with 50 Cent and on some of the other British rappers who have tried to break the states. In this episode, we hear from Estelle, hip-hop journalist Elliott Wilson (Rap Radar), rapper Cookie Pryce and rapper and YouTube reactor Scru Face Jean. Archive used in this episode: Jay-Z at Glastonbury, BBC Presenter: Ashley Walters Producer: Emily Dicks Written by Emily Dicks Technical production: Ant Danbury Additional production: Dari Samuels, Tommy Dixon and Zayna Shaikh Editor for BBC Audio: Andy Worrell Commissioning producer: Jonathan O’Sullivan Commissioner for BBC Music: Will Wilkin A BBC Audio production.